Obama election spurs race threats, crimes

When McCain made the statement "I'm proud of the people that come to our rallies" I was stunned. 

That would have been a perfect time for him to disavow racism, but he didn't want to loose a vote.

McCain defended Obama plenty of times, but Obama did not do the same for McCain.  So why don't you stop blaming McCain for every little thing you think he should have done in the compaign and assign some responsibility to Obama.  Since when is McCain responsible for racism in this country? 

mcbush and palin definitely encouraged the hatred during their rallies

It wasn't until the media put a light on it that mcbush did a little to show he was against it... too bad he was not being sincere and for Palin she never once spoke out against the hatred and any of her rallies... she one of those good pentacostal "christians"

I'm stunned that people allow a media generated controversy to shape their view of a Presidential candidate.

Why punish John McCain for choosing to acknowledge the vast majority of his supporters, and not the handful of people who shouted out the idiotic stuff? Because those shouts made the news, instead of his speeches? Gee, why would the media do that?

That's right.  It was the racists in the crowds that made the news for weeks.  No one reported on McCain's message.  All of the cameras were focused on the crowds looking for racists.

scifiguy- see if you can get it straight. obama started the fire! palen and mc cain are innocent by standers. innocent by standers...sound familiar? obamas lies don't make your world true.

get with it: obama divided the nation by asking blacks to vote for him, because he's black, to put a black in the whitehouse to work for the blacks. now obama is the #1 racist! he should get his speech writers he relies on because he can't follow a thought, to help him get up and lead, by first apologising for dividing our nation based on lies.

Scienceguy356641- You are right on the money! I had changed my decision not to vote for McCain/Palin. There campaign was akin to - 1960's in the Deep South. I am Black and a Republican, from the South (Virginia), and believe me, to look at what was taking place during the last couple of months, brought back BAD MEMORIES. I live in So. CA. where the new issue is that BLACKS WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PASSAGE OF PROP 8. Give me a break. This sounds like the Civil War all over again, only it is now 2008. No doubt, some FAR RIGHT COWARD FESTERED THIS ONE UP. The other party was no better, but did not come off as the 'GREATER OF TWO EVILS.'Before we begin to judge President-Elect Obama, can we at least let him SIT AT THE DESK FIRST!

You are exactly correct in what you said.  Anyone who disputes what you stated is not being honest.  I truly was horrified when I saw Palin's rallies.  For John McCain to be offended by what John Lewis said was hypocritical - these events prove Lewis was right.  I fear for Obama.

At Ms Palin's gatherings there seemed to be more hatred shown.  I believe she was ranting on about Mr Bill Ayers and now we find that they were all lies.  One can see what type of people would support such a candidate.   

As a White female born in the South and reared in the North with a Mixed Family...No

one can appreciate the indelibly ingrained Racism in America more than I..I was naive

also to believe it had dissipated until the Election of Obama...then I found out about

the REAL feelings of Neighbors I thought were my friends for over 29 years..in a

Caldisack Community were I had reared my Children to play With theirs..and had

parties and  Community Fairs etc.....some of my Daughters Married Black, Asian ,and

Native American/B...My grandchildren are Beautiful and I thought my Neighbors were

fine...Smiling and  laughing with me only to find out that We were the WIGGERS of the

Neighborhood..yet my Black Surgeon son-in-law could give all the FREE medical advice

in the World...I know that is why I Abhor Racist ....more importantly as I reflected back

over the years I realized how I missed ALL the Covert innuendos...I truly am on top of

the Slightest Racial Hate language NOW...and there is TONS....totally Shameful and

Disgusting.

A hundred and fifty years and we're still putting up with ignorant hatred.  I just don't understand.  My parents didn't rear their children to be racists.  They reared us to live like Christ, as much as we could.  Do these ignorant people honestly think their racist hatred will get them to heaven?  Do they care that their stupidity reflects on all intelligent citizens of the USA?  They are misfits that are frightened that a black man is the highest elected official in America, so they spout and spew this vomit at whoever will listen.  UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!

Whites and Blacks have been in America damn near the same amount of time...and If

one were to be HONEST there have been More Killing and Harm done to Blacks by

Whites.....than the OTHER WAY AROUND and that is a Document able Fact...So if any

thing Blacks fear Whites more...yet they are not harming every White they see...the

whole issue is Lunacy and Nauseating...It really is so Hurtful to me as a Parent and

Grand parent because I reared My Family to appreciate all of Mankind...I NEVER taught

Separatism because I truly believe we are all the same LIVING BREATHING

CREATURES....it is so Hard for me to try to explain to my Grands why people HATE

based on skin tone....I tell them it's like HATING a dog, cat, tree,

flower,bird...because it does not LOOK EXACTLY as you do....not because it will do

you HARM..just not the   IDENTICAL SAME...in exterior only.

really do you have any actual proof?  Or do you just listen to Olberman and Mathews?

Where do you get your facts!!! none of that is true.  This election was ran race and nothing more, where I live that's all they talked about was Obama being black. I don't really care about that, I cared that he has no experience and the issues he stood for were not in line with God's word. 

Chill dude..relax, get your facts straight

yes where are your facts?  And Olberman and Mathews are full of crap..

Lu where do you get this stuff you put out.. Several Times McCain took time to tell people what a good man obama was..

I am surprized that all of you think the other race are all racist! You are all slightly off kilter. There is rasism in all races. Get all your facts straight before making yourselves look so naive. I have seen and heard people from all races teach their kids to hate or fear the others and its sad. Will Obama do a good job? I don't know and neither does anyone else. Were there things of contraversy in his campain yes but there was some in the other group as well. Agreed why leave congress in office if you truly wanted to make a change in the country. I pray mr Obama decides he likes this country enough to support its flag and national anthem as a former Marine I was very upset by this disreguard to those of us who put it all on the line for him to be able to live his life and become our president. I don't believe he deserves to be in the office if he can't support what it stands for. And before some of you decide to bash me and call me racist because I was offended by this decision of mr Obama I am not. I don't agree with all abortion or same sex mariage and so forth. I will be behind him but not on those issues. P.U.S.H. PRAY UNTIL SOMETHING HAPPENS.

i remember a white farmer in 1989 who daughter dated a black man. He told the boys father that if they caught them together they would kill him. The daughter was angry because the young man wanted to call it off, i was in my grandmother's house sleep when i heard a lot of sirens, me and my father went down the road to see what happened it was feb. We watched them pull the car out of the creek. In the road was a cross burning. The young man wa shot in the head and hands were tied to the steering wheel, she was in the passenger side dead. There was two sets of tracks one where the car was braking, the other pushing, the car trunk was pushed in. car was pushed into the creek. 2 weeks later the father shot two of the five clan members burning a cross in his yard. He was sent to prison for two years but finally released. so joe i will answer your question, my facts are from what i have seen growing up in mississippi, there are really a lot of people who are afraid of blacks simply because someone said to be. Remember, a black person couldn't fly any aircraft in the military during ww2 because we were not as smart as whites. like said in my history book from jessie owens to tiger woods we have proven that we can over come and was equal in atheletics to whites. I remember reading an article in 1979 sports, why a black man could not be a QB in america, it was said that we couldn't lead like whites. well now we can defy the racist, and truly be whatever we want in this country including president . I think that is what scares some whites more. This country was found by whites more less taken from the indians, and in the south built on slavery...... slaves invented and was not given credit. it was a black slave who invented the cotton gin, eli whitney took the credit. what are you really afraid of, we would never do the injust things that have been done to us.......... you can count on it.

North Mississippi, sad story but if true why only two years for attempted murder of at least two people? I could see the head lines now had it been the other way around! These are the things that keep racial tensions going in this country. Yes whites and blacks alike saying or doing something to needle the others just enough. It doesn't help when you have these groups such as the kkk or arian nation or jessie jackson or al sharpton to keep the hatred moving. Everyone in this country has the same rights but some are told they can't exercise theirs because it may offend someone else. It is time to do away with all the hate groups kill them if we must make everyone stay in school and get their education or atleast keep them from getting any free money from the government if they haven't completed school and been trying to work honestly no matter if they are white black red yellow blue or green. Do away with anything that attempts to keep the hatred stirring. Most of America are togather on most of the issues but for some reason the media and most leading figures want to focus on the few that don't comply. The more attention we give them the more hatred we stir. When we all learn to stop giving them the media attention they crave the better things will become. This is 2008 and things are far better for all races than ever before.

This type of stuff is exactly why the talking heads like Rush Limbaugh and some others should be FIRED.  They fueled the flames more than any others.  At least strip them of the titles of 'conservative'.  They are so radical it isn't funny anymore.

Whoever said something on the air about 'gangs roaming the highways stopping cars, beating and robbing people' should be first to go.  The elderly heard this from others in church or wherever and thought it was true.  They were scared.

Scary, the same things Jim Jones said to his followers are the same things Palin and McCain were saying to their 'base' of right-wing radicals.

Now, the Gay community should not be allowed unions called Marriage. (period) 

BTW, the worst things said about Palin were said by members of the Republican Party, not the Democrats.  So, blame your own people.

Children today have no respect for others...gee wonder why with their parents listening to Rush in the car etc. 

Obviously you got all your McCain/Palin information from the liberal blogs and the media.  They never went after Obama in the way you describe.  Really need to consider expanding your horizons in order to obtain a more balanced view of the world.

Is economic well being the single most important consideration?

We elect leaders to govern.  They are supposed to provide for their constitutes.

What do you mean when you say "they are supposed to provide for their constituents"?

I think you're misinterpreting.

States that trend Republican aren't "poor" states, they are states without dense population centers, and thus with less of a need for big government.

They're largely rural, and depend more on local economy than gloabal economy, and they don't want someone from outside telling them how to run their lives. In this case, they don't want government to provide for them - THEY provide for THEMSELVES. They want government to leave them the hell alone.

look at the red states again and it shows they contain most of the low-information voters and wouldn't know the platform of anyone they have voted for , they vote republican because they always have regardless Hitler was on their ticket that is who would get their vote

The people are poorer.  They have less income.  They make less money.

They live below the poverty level.  They are less educated.  They pay tax on their food.

It's shocking to see the poverty in the South.  Those people are poor. 

With rising food and utility costs who do you think it hurt the most?  People making $50,000 a year or people making $15,000 a year??

Teachers in the poor states make $25,000 a year.  My kid makes $35,000 and she hasn't finished her degree.

There are programs to train these people to go to work, learn trades and even go to college on us THE LEGAL AMERICAN TAXPAYER, but no these people would rather keep generatopn after generation on welfare..GO FIGURE

The amount of welfare that a family gets varies from state to state.   A person getting welfare in Utah makes more money that a person working a full time job in the South.

My point is that social programs, assistance for poor and middle class, and tax cuts for people making under $250,000 a year will benefit 99% of the population of the Southern and Mid-West states, yet they consistently vote GOP.

I heard one politician comment about his constitutents at a McCain rally being against Obama's tax policy because "they didn't want their taxes raised". 

The Politician's reply was: "Hell, there ain't three people in the State that make over $40,000 a year".

Ever read "What's Wrong With Kansas?"?

Lu, your argument about southern states being primarily poor and uneducated doesn't hold water. Our combined household income, in Houston, is just under $75,000. I have a two year degree in electronics and my wife has some college but no degee. We have one child and own our home. We are both between 25 and 40 years old. By all accounts we are the average family in our county.

We are having no problem making it because we do not pay a state income tax and we live within our means. Housing costs are cheaper here than they are in the Northeast as are gas prices. We buy local groceries and produce as much as possible. In my chosen profession, a field service technician, if were to move to either New York or California we would be at or below the poverty line because this job pays less in those areas. The same goes for my wife who is a receptionist.

My point is that generalizitions without facts are as biased as racism. Do your homework before making assertions or you are no better than the KKK or Black Panthers.

Lu

you are so Correct The poorer and Less Educated the more Racist...even though

some Middle Class are just as Ignorant...because money can not by Brains...look at W.

and McCain.

If the red states are so bad, why are people moving there? You all need to think about this.

Lu, one of the writers for the major News outlet in Kentucky made the same observations.  The poorest and least educated are the registered Republicans in our state and in most of the REDDEST southern states.  It's embarrassing that these are the very people would improve their lot in this life by listening and learning about people who are different from them.  They are frightened by this Democracy and it's foundations of equality.... and government "by the people and for the people".  Very, very pitiful.

those who voted republican that i know personally were actually school teachers, software engineers and financial advisors (all had college degrees).  not sure why people are generalizing them as "uneducated".  btw, i'm neither R nor D.

LU - For some people their morals are not for sale.

for a couple of comments I read:  no the economy ISN'T the only factor in an election, but it's kind of stupid as heck to keep voting for the party that has run D.C. for the last 8 years and the last 2 of the Clinton years when we see the CLIFF that came up from under us so fast.

To Chris who insists that the rural states want big government OUT of their lives, well, as a REPUBLICAN (not a neo con) I do TOO, but the REPUBLCAN PARTY JUST BLEW IT IN THE BIGGEST WAY EVER.  We have MORE gov't:  Homeland Security; we have LESS rights:  eminent domain precedent changes, Patriot Act, phone wiring, arrests for legal protesting; we have the BIGGEST DEBT ever, rather than less debt; we have 2 wars that weren't as a direct result of attack on our soil (IRAQ IS NOT AL QUAIDA); we have the LEAST fiscally conservative government in the HISTORY of the United States; and we are MORE socialist than ever: Wall Street Bailout.  We also have a president who has COMPLETELY reinterpreted the Constitution and has written EXTENSIVE executive orders that are BEYOND the scope defined by the Constitution and a Vice President who is attempting to change the definition of his position. 

I voted Obama cuz someone has to put the restraint on this mess.  MY PARTY is not solely comprised of extreme religious nuts who claim that GOD decides the president must be white.  Who claim that blacks are racist cuz they voted democrat AGAIN, but the fact that an ENORMOUS majority of the voters who voted for McCain were WHITE doesn't show racism.  And racism is VOTING AGAINST SOMEONE because of their color, not voting FOR someone.  I didn't hear blacks say they were voting AGAINST McCain because he was white. 

I think the Republican party was HIJACKED and I'm not going to stand by quietly and allow people who think it's okay to yell "terrorist" and "kill him" and "traitor" to make my decisions for me, as if ANYONE who disagrees with them is not American. 

Not only that, my first thought after the McCain debacle, was that of SHAME for my party when they started to snipe Palin as if the whole thing was HER fault.  So now we have Republicans PROVING once again that they don't like women in power.  (as McCain kept stating REPEATEDLY throughout his campaign.)  But HE was never called into question as to HIS discrimination against women!  (completely disrespected his wife at a BIKER rally, wanted her to have the title of Buffalo Crap, and he sniggered about his mistaken belief that women don't get insurance coverage for the pill while men can get Viagra via insurance, said to beat Hillary with a stick, voted AGAINST the raising of minimum wage which affects MOST single moms and those poorest children of the nation who AREN'T insured, while voting to give a tax cut NOT to EVERYONE, but solely to those who are the creme de la creme and lo and behold HE fit into THAT TAX BRACKET and got his OWN BREAK.  Wow.  Republicans think NO one should pay taxes.  Not just the rich. 

THAT'S what makes me wonder about the bassackwards logic of the NEO CONS.  For they are NOT republican.  AT ALL.  It's a new party.  Not the party of less government, less spending, more isolationism, and more individual rights.  Bush and Cheney blew that out of the water. 

I'm also tired of how angry everyone is, and we're ALL angry with Bush and Congress, yet so MANY want to blame this on a man who ISN"T EVEN PRESIDENT YET. 

FEAR???? You're AFRAID of him (Obama)?  WHY THE HELL AREN'T YOU OUT THERE PROTESTING BUSH!?!?!  HE'S the one who made our country so weak that if we DID face an attack on our soil, there's NOTHING WE COULD DO!!! Our national guard is extremely weakened/tired and in IRAQ of all places!  WHILE MEXICAN POLICE and MILITARY ATTACKS OUR BORDER PATROL, and where is Homeland Security for THAT Georgie boy?!?!? 

Lu, your argument about southern states being primarily poor and uneducated doesn't hold water

According to every statistics out there, southern states typically make much less than northern states.  States with growing population and increase in income, education, and diversity start to trend democratic.  Thats what happened to virgina, and that is what they are predicting will happen in texas within the next decade.   

Lets see, thats why in my field, when I moved from Georgia to New York I made less money. Came back to Georgia because I made nearly 5000.00 more per year. Same goes for a co-worker, he moved from Georgia to Ohio and made less money. He moved back because he couldnt afford to live in the hell hole you call ohio. Visit Southeast Georgia and South Carolina. There is more wealth in these areas than up North by far. You Damn Yankees are so ignorant yourselves that your too blind to see.

He moved back because he couldnt afford to live in the hell hole you call ohio. Visit Southeast Georgia and South Carolina\ 

lmao!

Heaven forbid I take statistics over your unverifiable personal testimony

Of course there will be some cases where people make more in the south and some cases where people make less in the north.  duh!

However the average of poeple with more education and higher incomes is higher in the north.   It has been that way since before the civil war and it won't change now. 

Don't get mad at Ohio,  just because you didnt have what it took to make it in New York ;P

Well where I live a 6 year old boy that said his parents had voted for Mc Cain was beaten by 5 or 6  African Americans 6 year olds....but guess what the parents didn't press charges ...why because I guess they thought the parents would go after them since their children(6 year olds) went after their son because he said they voted for Mc Cain ....

Then, here's another one for you a group of workers were discussing about how the media was so one sided on the issues and One African American woman told a group of white women to suck it up and get over it because now it's your turn to see what we went through.... If anyone would have said that to her she would have ran to file a complaint and said they were being racist making those remarks.....

Also, at an area High School the day after the election there was a teacher that had trouble controlling the class because they wanted to discuss the election and politcs ( she tried explaining you can't do that at school and the first thing to come out of their mouths was it's because he's a black president and you are prejudice(wonder where they learned that from )) when she called for back up from the front office 2 female administrators came ( one white and one black) when the teacher explained what was going on the black administrator says fist up "Power to the People" ..the other 2 women mouths dropped ..   Now if that would have been said by anyone else they would have lost their jobs for such a comment

   I don't think any of us had nothing to do with what happened decades ago.... I don't get it it's ok for African Americans to play the race card no matter what is said ...during the elections it was A L W A Y S Obama bringing up the race card always... McCain always defended Obama which to me was a mistake on his part... by the way I am a Democrat if you thought I was a republican ....

You are in control of your own destiny but people have become so accustomed to blaming others for their own mistakes and wrong doings ...this is what America has turned into a country that blames others and passes the buck

hold up! you think they should have pressed charges agaisnt 6 year olds?  *thinks back to all the fights I had as a child*  Heaven help us when we start throwing babies in jail for fighting.  My question is where was the teachers that allowed a group of kids to gang up on another kid. 

Now racism on ANY side is wrong but the isolated incidents on both sides of the field are anything but the norm.  We must condemn any racial actions taken against any group, but we can't be naive and let a few bad apples spoil the bunch. 

BTW, I also need some evidence of when Obama brought up the race card. 

the only race cards I seen played wasn't against blacks, it was against Muslims and Arabs and it was by the McCain campaign.

I could have made it in New York if I wanted to, but with all the backwards thinking of stuck up Yankees, I realized I was better in the South, among good people who actually care about each other.

Echoe-     You make an important point that others would do well to think about. Most blogs here are definitely displaying a lot of emotion here about bias of others without thinking about some of the bias their statements present. Such as its all those republicans fault as if all republicans or whatever side they are taking represents the views of all people within the group. Then they wonder where bias comes from. Unfortunately bias at different levels is an age old problem in all corners of the world. Best remedy to try to move away from it is education and reading more about other cultures. Spend some time reading news from other countries and  reflect upon what you read.  Its a long road that we are all on.

No human being is ever born with hatred.  It MUST be taught by other humans and no parent has that right.  NO PARENT.

Dear PYankee

Last time I noticed, people are fleeing the North and moving to the South. (The South gets 7 more electorial votes after 2010.)

I live in New York and I can not take the selfish Liberals who will not give the people they profess to love the time of day, and the high taxes.

New York is finished. Our one industry, WALL STREET, can no longer support the Education, Medicaid, and Welfare state. WALL STREET IS NOT COMING BACK! There is no other industry to pay for the socialism. They all went South!

The North is finished.

What the hell Azwoman?  I realize the article is about racism, but Patrick was not being racist, or even TALKING about race.  I thought you were in your 60's... shouldn't you be more mature than that?  And also, as a white person, I found your statement to be a little bit racist.  Racism against whites is no better or worse than racism against any other "color." 

I live in the South.  I believe that there is both latent and overt racism and there is poverty in this part of the country.  However, I have lived and worked in other parts of our country and I believe those same traits are just as prevalent elsewhere in this great land and I believe that there are poor people spread across our nation.

I also believe that we live in a country where the opportunity exists to rise above poverty and to grow out of racist beliefs.  Many of our poorest citizens enjoy a far better standard of living than some rich people in other countries.

The one thing that seems to me to be more abundant in the South is the desire for the local, state and federal governments to stay out of the way and keep its hands out of our pockets.  I am not saying that those feelings do not exist in other parts of the country: rather, I think they are more dominant in the South.

As far as President Elect Obama is concerned, whether we agree with him or not, he ran a masterful campaign and got elected.   He delivered a message that a plurality of voters must have liked or else they would not have voted for him.  Soon he will be called upon to stand and deliver more than a message. 

He will face many difficult situations and I hope God gives him the wisdom, courage and strength to make the best decisions on our behalf, whatever color he happens to be.  Like it or not, he will be everyone's President.  At least, give him a chance. 

Last time I noticed, people are fleeing the North and moving to the South. (The South gets 7 more electorial votes after 2010.)

Yeah and guess what happens when northerners move south:

Virgina turns blue ;P

And don't forget about all the voter fraud.  Who really knows who won?

That was in PA and Ohio in 2004!!

The best man WON!

Move on, and GET OVER IT

LU, the word is dumb, not dump!  The woman is "mentally ill" and has a history of it. It had nothing to do with being fed information.

Also:  candidates "lose" and election, not "loose".  Loose is the opposite of tight.

obama can't form a thought on his own, he relies on his speech writers to figure out what is the prettiest sounding words for here, then switch sides and say the opposite, there. you've been fed by the idiot who has been relying on being fed.

Vhuskey,,,,,,i happen to have a "huskey",,,,,,one with four legs and a brain that would put yours to shame,,,,,give it up, you lost! Most of all grow up!

vhuskey

Well, I guess the very articulate Sarah Palin makes you VERY happy.  It is foolishness to believe a man who has the education and training of this man is not intelligent.  That argument is so out of the park that vhuskey should just let it go.  This is stupidity.  I have no doubt that everybody is not fit for college but the idea that people who spend their post-highschool years bettering themselves should be looked down upon is as I said before foolishness.  Let it go and get something else to be made with him about. 

Remember that white men kidnapped and dragged Africans to the American South in chains. And now, some American people are angry that there are black people here. Hmmmm. . . .

Excuse me Jenny.  I thought candidates lose an election rather than "lose and election."

See, it can happen to perfect people like you as well.

Electing Obama as president has nothing to do with his color.  Will the media create this false hatred of Obama to control opposing thought.  Is this how they will control the opposition by calling the person racist?  White guilt?  Create stories about racism so that there will be no scrutiny of his policies.  The media is in love with Obama. 

Excuse me but it would seem to me that there is just as much racism coming from the other direction. I know black people who won't even look at a white person. What is that all about?

I read a lot of posts from Leftist who keep talking about hate from the right. But it sure seems to me that the Leftists are the ones that hate the Right. If fact I think the Leftist hate conservatives more than they do Al-Qaeda. But then they both have the same goals don't they? They both want to radically change this country and have no tolerance for anyone who disagrees with them.

Thank you Trisha, you were the first person that posted to figure it out.

I'm a black man in oklahoma and i have NEVER in my life encountered a black person who wouldn't look at a white person.

I am a Hawaiian dem, and I whole heartedly agree with your post.

I am with you, we need to stand behind our leader and make this country strong once again. I congratulate you on your bold statement.

so you plan to support the guy who is responsible for making race an issue? obama is the one who asked blacks to vote for him because he's black and will make the whitehouse work for them, the blacks! and then he lies by calling mc cain a racist! instead of thanking mc cain for his service! to support obama, maybe you should write to him and ask him to apologise to the american people for racially dividing the nation!

When did Obama ask a certain racial group to vote for him? I never heard that. I actually don't recall him mentioning race at all. And Obama has thanked McCain and praised him for his service in interviews and at the debates and I believe even in his acceptance speech. Obama did not racially divide this nation. To the contrary, he is trying to get people to see beyond race and focus on what we all have in common.  Palin owes this nation an apology - she was the most blatant Republican trying to divide us. McCain didn't do it himself, but allowed her to do it.  Wouldn't it be ironic if when Obama and McCain meet on Monday, that McCain gets offered a position in the new administration? What would you say then? I think it speaks volumes to Obama's character that he is reaching out to his opponents. We all need to get along and move forward to the future.

vhuskey,

You really need to get a life.  Why is it that you are so intelligent and able to make decisions on your own and anyone who disagrees with you is obviously stupid? 

Whusky-

For Gods sake, shut up. You have to be one of teh most ill-informed people I have heard heard of. Nothing in the above post is accurate - nothng. you probably believe everything that Rush, Hannity and your white-robed Grand Wizard tell you.

Vhusky

You are proving this article to be CORRECT....Listen at your thoughts...You couldn't wait to

get it out...Could you?...Feeling GOOD now?...I betcha!...Obama said He didn't want

Race to be an Issue...because he thought America was Better than that...you have

been proving him wrong....He SAID JUST ONE AMERICA, THAT WE ALL LOVE!

vhusky:  You are absolutely wrong.  Obama never asked black people to vote for him.  He avoided the question of race entirely, other than the speech about Wright.

I will oppose this man from the start. I do not want my country to move to socialism just to get a free Doctor's visit.

I am against raising the income and capital gains tax.

He will destroy the victory in IRAQ.I am against the return of Union thuggery.

I remember the racial coalitions that terrorized construction sites, tolerated by Liberals. I remember forced busing while Ted Kennedy's children went to public school. I remember the Weathermen.

I remember Liberals not helping me as a Parent by saying "Just turn the dial if you don't like it". Telling me that I am just too stupid to understand "art".

Reminders that our Military people are dumb.

The constant use of the word "intelligence" to put people down to win arguments.

Liberals giving a minor the right to an Abortion without parental notification.

Lectures about energy, lectures about women beaten up on Superbowl day.

Lectures about 78 degree air-conditioning settings, BTU taxes, spotted owls, ending 401Ks. etc.

Class warfare. Welfare. Urban riots. Crime. Iran Hostages. Airplane hijackings

This Reagan Democrat has not forgotten. Hold onto your wallet!

I especially reject the "R" word that Liberals will use to refute my opinions about our new President!

Yea - this country has been such a wonderful place to live the past 4 years.

Rustle,

Not.  It has been a long time now.  "8" and GW isn't through with us yet.  He and Cheney man still have something left.  Opps! I meant Right.  Natzi any one?  They lied they torture and that is for the good of the country.  How about when gas was higher in price.  Not long ago.  GW was prancing around Saudi King with a sword over his shoulder. Begging to buy more oil with borrowed Chinese dollars.  Wow what a dimwit.

Give me young smart and educated not ignorant stupid and criminal. Or Draft Dodger anytime.

Let Freedom Ring.  Don't force it on countries that don't want it.  Georgie was just trying to best his Daddy.  He sure screwed up didn't he?

Patrick, you are sad, sorry.  

 He will destroy the victory in IRAQ.      What victory in IRAQ?  We have already lost a long time ago.  Now just losing our young people.  Just like Vietnam.

Talons have you been to Iraq?  I have and Afghanistan and we are not losing there either.. Ohh we are just like Vietnam.. No it wont be till obama pulls the troops out before the Iraqis agree to it.. They seem ready now we will see.. But the left is already calling Afghan lost.. seems they are ready with the white flag everywhere..

To all of you folks that think Obama did not ask for black people's vote, I thought that was the purpose of campaigning.  As far as I know, not only did he ask for black people's votes, but he asked for votes from people of all colors.

So technically, ol' vhusky got it partially correct!

Race doesn't have anything to do with it.  That's just media lies.

I agree with you completely. I did not vote for Barack Obama and if truth be known, I would rather have known alot more about him before we voted. However, he is now my President and as a citizen of this United States, I am completely behind him. But that doesn't mean that I'm not afraid, because I am.

There is no "victory" in Iraq- only a cease fire.

How 'victorious' would things be if the Mahdi Army decided to end that cease fire and fill the country full of roadside bombs and mortar attacks again?

They almost ended it once already because we didn't want to make plans to leave.

Mahdi who is in Iran being led by the nose like a pig by Iran's leaders. He is an elected official in the Iraq government yet he hides like a coward in Iran.. I think the Iraqi people now know that the US is really trying to make things better and they see the Taliban and Alkaida as the ones who kill them on a daily basis and blow up women and children.

As will most all americans.  We may not agree with him and I no matter what, will voice my opinion.  I, myself will not be held hostage by the far left.  I certainly would not want anything bad to happen to Obama or his family.  I don't think anyone, whatever their views, should be silenced, or made to feel guilty, for their opinions and beliefs.  And certainly the "say you're sorry,  appologize" crap has gone way to far.  Say what you mean and don't apologize for it!!!!!

Patrick, darling, if you're not going to support the president before you've even given him a chance, move. Go to Canada, just leave. We don't need your divisive views while the rest of the US is trying to give this President a chance. Let him at least sit at the damned desk before you start freaking out.

Patrick raised very valid points, based on Obama's stated positions.  We have the right to oppose these positions and fight for ours... just as the left has done when they've disagreed with government leaders.  I plan to fight for my beliefs and oppose ideas that will hurt this country.  Sorry... won't be going to Canada. 

Dude, oppose them when they are being implemented.

Obama goes into office in Jan. 09!  There is a lot of talk, but for now, that's all it is...

You ppl are more than sad......acting like its the end of the World, and all.....

Living a fake superior life and now being SHOWN that you are nothing but a mere human NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER AMERICAN~  Must be tough, huh?

Striker, you are absolutely correct.  It hurts the arguement that blacks are always the vicitims if both sides are printed.

It's the children of the racists that are the victims.

The article was giving examples of racism.  It never said that all of the victims were black and it never said that all of the attackers were white.

When I came to work the next day, so excited to discuss this Nation 44th President Barack Hussein Obama. I received a rude awakening. My Caucasian co-workers had their heads hung low and they were not talking to the African American co-workers. I dialed my friend on the other side of the room and asked her did she noticed people were acting strange. She said yes and I told her I thought it was just me, and she said you can tell who they voted for and they are pissed. My thing is this, we have voted for 43th Caucasian President's and Caucasian have voted for them as well, so now why is it a problem when African Americans voted for Obama, because he is qualified and well beyond his years of someone who was destined to be a Leader and he has accomplished his dream. My favorite slogan of his speech is this: This is not a Blue America or a Red America, this is the United States of America. We are one Nation and we must rise above the hate, because he is your President too! 

Lovely sentiment-----unfortunately not true though. Where do you think that the money for more welfare programs is going to come from? It won't be only the rich paying for it--it never is. All those people who classify all whites as racists when they question why there are so many opportunities for minorities keep any real change from happening. By the way, has any one ever questioned the black racist myth that all whites are rich ? Many of us live in urban ghettoes because we haven't the money to leave----we don't want to live here, it's a matter of age or economics. Has any black ever asked why there are no special programs for poor white children, or scholarships especially geared for them? It might be nice to look at the realities sometime, not the presumptions or the minority myths.

Do you mean the corporate welfare--I don't know how much of my tax money will be taken to bail them out--and already they had all the tax breaks and loopholes. And laughed at the middle class, especially at their stupidity and gullibility, making it so easy to get them to look down instead of up for welfare rip offs.

Lucy, all the money needed can be taken from the corporate welfare plans and diverted to education, health care and making sure no American goes to bed hungry at night.  Tonite, in America, as McCain goes to bed in one of his 7 or 8 houses, many people from Kansas, Virginia, Ca. NY SC etc. et al. are going to bed in their car , or at a shelter, or a friends house...and their kids are going to bed hungry... if only that changes under Obama, that will be sufficient for me...

Striker, if you wife is a supervisor, then how can that be?  Someone is full of it.

because blacks cant be racist.. just ask Olberman or Mathews.. Hell ask a black person.. They are not allowed to be racist because of slavery..

Stryker, wow, thats funny.  Although, even if Obama had said he WAS going to take over the country for the black people BEFORE the election, I still would have voted for him.  Still beats the Republicans.

I never heard him say that he was going to take over the country for the black people. And if the black people believe that, they have a long way to go to understand out constitution. A black President can be impeached just as well as a white one.

haven't heard of any crosses being burned on the property of whites by BLACKS, nor have I heard of any "kill the whitey" slogans being chanted on School buses, or scrawled on graffitti walls, (unless you're deep in gang territory and they're bent on killing EVERYONE, not just whites) nor have I seen nooses hung in the trees of white people's front lawns, are you getting the gist here?  You can't treat someone like CRAP for years and years and expect them NOT to react, so I'd suggest if your wife DID hear black people say that to her, she'd have to ask herself what brought it on.  Not only was I a supervisor of a MULTITUDE of different people; handicapped, different ethnicities, LEGALLY from other countries, as well as a variety of races, I had NO problem with any of my employees, and often had celebrations with them outside of work.  I was the ONLY supervisor to receive a going away party from the employees, and NONE of them ever felt belittled by me, or that they were being trampled on by the boss.  I encouraged ALL of them to strive to do better for themselves and they succeeded by bringing in AWESOME numbers for the company.  MANY of my employees got higher positions and raises for their work.  But hey, that's just me, I didn't look down my nose and tell them they wouldn't succeed because of their color, or dffierences.  The company did FAR better with me encouraging personal betterment than by the other supervisor who put anyone down who was different. 

And that's how the country will do too,  You can all either put up, or shut up.  If you're not going to participate in BETTERING your country, then go away and you can't complain about ANYTHING.  If you insist on making yourself fail JUST so you can say, It's Obama's fault, then you're worse than anyone.  Either get out there and MAKE SURE that YOUR end of town stays out of the fray and does things that HELP the town rather than HINDER the town, or go to your bunker (preferably for the next 50 years) and don't come out until the world has changed yet again, and you along with McCain will learn new technology.  If you're lucky, you'll learn it from someone who has COMPASSION for the minority.  Cuz yeah, caucasians are slowly becomng the minority. 

I'm kind of thinking it's about REALLY stupid to egg on racism when you're becoming the minority in the U.S.  DUH. 

(oh, I'm "white" by the way, but I've lived in enough other countries to understand what being the minority is. and yes, I'm AMERICAN BORN AND RAISED and living in another country DID NOT make me any LESS American, but it gave me an EXCELLENT education in foreign affairs.)

How Palin-like!!

I guess your ignorant a$$ didnt get the memo that IT AINT WORKING!

Whenever there is a story about race MSNBC always has to have an internal editor working because of the vile racist blogs.

Say what ever you want.  Let the FBI and Homeland Security know who you are so that they can haul you to prison.

You are a terrorist.  You are a threat to this country.  You.

You're kidding right?  That is laughable.  I am a terrorist because I point out thruths that you are not willing to admit because you are closed minded?  I can look at both sides and see truth and lies on both sides, but you seem to look at one side and only see what you think to be the truth.  It shows in your posting.  

And you are a racist.  So be sure to turn yourself in, too. 

Does it make you sound like a gestpo authority figure suggesting that Homeland Security and the FBI should be involved.  I am sure they do not need help from the likes of you gestapo wanabees to do their jobs.  Quick go get your application so you can sign up for Obamas National Security Force.  Racism is wrong, but what you are suggesting is ridiculous. 

Maybe what he is saying is that these blogs are monitored and anything that is threatening is turned over for information. In other words, it pays to watch your mouth.

Thanks to the Bush administration it is now legal for the FBI and Homeland Security to monitor telephones and e-mails...and you have to admit it makes their job a lot easier.

There is no excuse for racism in this country.  And teaching it to a kid is child abuse.

Not only should they be rounded up, tried, and imprisoned but they should be castrated so that they to not reproduce their ignorance.

Would that be enough of a deterrent for you?  If you're caught burning a cross on someone's lawn or teaching racism to a child they cut your n@ts off?

Do you think that would do it for you?? Because we know that being viewed as a sick freak isn't enough of a deterrent; maybe removing your "best friend" would make you rethink your position.

I wish that it could be seen as child abuse. Maybe it would help stop some of it.

Because I do not support your tactics does not mean I do not agree with your message that racism is evil.   Anyone who is a racist would never be my friend nor would they have my sympathy if I was on the jury during their trial.  When you talk of 'removing' people' as deterents I can only go back to my gestapo analogy. 

Anyone hear that Obama wants his own police force-----that's how the Gestapo was formed in Germany in the early 30s.

No Lucy, no one's come up with that lie yet.

But keep repeating it over and over and it will become true.  But don't forget to add that the police force will be made up of big black men that will rape white women.

The President already has his "own police force".

They are called the Secret Service.  They've been around since 1865.

Hey Lucy, He can always take over BlackWater contracts and Erik "Praetorian" Prince from Bush Corp.

LU-404506

Not sure if I agree with the method.  However, I suppose if we started with Farrakhan, Wright, the Grand Wizard and the Head Neo Nazi guy first it might demonstrate some seriousness.  We could work our way down the ranks until we finish, then we could start on everyone else that disagrees with you (or the government in power or the cause du jour.)  Unfortunately, I think the effort would not be applied equally and we would see a one sided effort used as a sword rather than a shield.

Hey jmmmm, you're talking about BUSH tactics.  It's not someone HERE who wants it, they're just noting that the FBI and Homeland security WILL have that name on a list because of what was said.  The PRESIDENT is the gestapo you're talking about now. 

If you are so worried that Bush is putting names on the Homeland Security Security list why do you continue to post. If Lu had her way, it would be appropriate that you and yours will be castrated and removed from society as a deterrent to your anti-Bush message.  Oh ya, this applies to only the people Lu disagrees with.   Your hatred of this President is your prerogative and the fact that you live in a country that allows you this freedom should be at least one thing you are grateful for under this current President.  And apparently hate speech is a one way street in your viewpoint.  The comments made by Lu are among the most hateful posted on this board. 

I AM on one of the potential terrorists lists(albeit quite low on the totem pole.)  Because I had to take a college course on Mideast studies and read Al Jazeera every day, also because I call overseas quite often, as I have family in other countries.  But so are MILLIONS of people on that list, which is why it's the most ridiculous list there is.  And NO I'm not afraid of being on that list, nor did I say I was.  LU was commenting on a post that was DELETED and rightfully so, because it was extremely dangerous and THAT would trigger an alert and a posting as possible terrorist on the goverment list. 

Echoe, I am probably not the first to mention to you, and your cohorts, are delusional.  I think you attach far more value and importance to your thoughts and actions than others do, particularly the resources of the Federal Agencies.  Despite what you and you pals think, those agencies deal with reality and important things, not everyday nuisances such as yourself.   That is, unless you are engaged in something that has already, potentially is or could be related to a serious violation of a section of Title 18.  Right now, I have seen nothing that would rise to a standard even close to the standard on the level of a village ordinance on nose picking.   Sorry no list for you. 

The first time someone said to me that "by 2050 white people would be a minority in America" it was 1990.

My response was: "why would white people be a majority?"

Hey... I won't be alive for it, but I know someday it'll happen. What I think will be great is when there has been so much intermarriage that there aren't specific "races" of people, but rather a smooth gradation in complextion. After all, that's essentially what "race" is: just a difference in complexion and how our eyes and noses are shaped. Big whup!

I wish the race haters (and that's all racists of all types) would figure out that we're a better society when united than when divided.

If what you say happens, it sure will be boring if everyone all looked the same. there is a big difference between racist and racialist

Indigo, unfortunately, it doesn't matter who, or what, or where, SOMEONE always has to figure out a way to determine how THEY are better than the OTHER group.  In Puerto Rico, it's straight hair vs. curly, in Morocco it's the east side vs. the west side, in Germany, they hate the Turks, in France it's the Algerians, so on and so forth.  What's HILARIOUS to me, is that in my travles, I've heard NUMEROUS people remark on the travesty of American racism towards blacks, yet they don't consider themselves racist when they discriminate against a whole group of people.  It wouldn't stop even if everyone looked EXACTLY alike, cuz then it'd be by the house you own, or your job, maybe your financial status, maybe even the CAT or DOG you pick.  There's ALWAYS going to be discrimination, because there will ALWAYS be someone insecure enough that they have to find a reason and a way, to be "better" than everyone else. 

It wouldn't be so bad if we weren't so arrogant.

But arrogant idiots?  Bad combination.

denny, you are right.  The world laughs at America and thinks of it as the dumb country cousin.  It is so very sad that people like these racist are allowed to even exist.  They are breeders of hate and disillusioned with their own lives.  Someone even said some whites are angry as they feel they ae losing what their fore fathers founded.  My thought is found what?  last I heard, the native Americans were here before the white man.

ming- racist shouldn't be allowed to exist? and so tell me, thought police, what color shoes am i supposed to wear to be allowed to exist according to your standard? next it will be, people with less than 100 iq should not be allowed to exist, in which case you're next.

I don't think so vhusky.  Our country is moving ahead.  We have no time to waste on hatred and vitriol.  More important issues are pressing.

Why do you WANT to be a racist?

Racism is just a form of ignorance.

Doesn't it embarrass you to be ignorant?

Don't you want better for yourself?

People laugh at america because it is so easy to get billions of dollars from us.

To you folks above,

My response is who gives a crap what Europeans or others think. You obviously don’t respect anything that your countrymen think.  This is America and it really only matters to us what we think.

I think your opinions of your fellow Americans and their opinions are detestable.  Regardless of what you think or believe this is every American's country, and dislike or not, they are entitled to their views.  You folks, for some reason, seem to think that everyone who does not have the same opinion as you, on any matter, is a racist, stupid, ill educated, a red neck, trailer trash and a host of other descriptions.  I feel it is you who, although maybe not as overtly racist (white trash, red neck, etc), are as bigoted and biased as any of those you condemn.

To that I would add there is the addition of an obnoxious attitude that smacks of complete elitism and arrogance.  This should fit in well with the new administration. I’m sure you will have us all turned into the kind of Americans and the type of people you think, “we must become.”

Dear donald stoetzel you are one big joke if you think racism doesn't exist in the rest of the world. The USA is 232 yrs old and just elected a black president whats the rest of the world waiting for ? Europe has been around for at least 1000 yrs were still waiting for a minority prime minister what 's your response to that

My response is who gives a crap what Europeans or others think.

Sorry, but this attitude is simply ignoring the reality of the world we live in today. Countries economies, security, trade, banking, etc are all tied together. It matters what the world thinks because we are a part of the world, not some isolated island and certainly not as dominant as some would like to think we are. We can't lead if nobody is following.

salsajoe

Dear donald stoetzel you are one big joke if you think racism doesn't exist in the rest of the world. The USA is 232 yrs old and just elected a black president whats the rest of the world waiting for ? Europe has been around for at least 1000 yrs were still waiting for a minority prime minister what 's your response to that

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Do you really think that the queen of england could turn black? this fool is a prime example of how someone can try to put words into your blog, and act sane at the same time. do you think that the emperor of Japan will change colors? and the chinese ? As long as there are people like salsaJoe, there will be racists. You can't vote for a new king. That is the difference between a monarchy and a democracy. The Saddam Hussein thing was a tyranny. (are you learning anything yet?)

I really hate to tell you , but in Britain the Queen is not the ruler, Gordon Brown, the Prime Minister is. The Emperor of Japan is not the leader, Junichiro Koizumi, the Prime Minister is. Neither country is a Monarchy, they are both Socialist Democracies.

Are YOU learning anything yet??

yep, and all those European idiots who thought WOMEN could run the place right?  Yeah, cuz only WHITE MEN. can be prime ministers.... oh whoops, did I give your argument a kick in the teeth? 

and denny, whatever country you're from, don't EVEN try to tell me that it's better there because there's no racism.  Phhhhtttt. 

It is a simple matter of scientific fact that the oldest signs of humans in north america are the bones of non-indians. Believe it or not.

Sydney

I agree with you 100%.  AS for Donald's response to your comment, I am not sure what that has to do with anything.

Racist is one thing Racialist is different. one is hating others who are not like you are and the other is just being proud of who you are. do you think you can understand that? say whatever you want. 

You are WRONG that the oldest human bones found in North America are not Indian. The oldest ones found are called the "Arlington Springs Woman" (carbon dated at 30,000 years), which are the female bones of an Clovis Paleo-Indian person, which is the ancestor of the Native Americans.

I wish you people would educate yourselves before making comments. I mean really, seriously.

Thank you Lucene, I was about to make the same comment, and let me add that native Americans have been found to be descended from ancient nomadic asian groups.  NOT WHITES!!!!

And if Donald was talking (somehow) about the Norwegian or Viking groups, they weren't here before the nomadic Indian groups.  Sorry, they only came after and they learned to trade with the native Americans.  Not only that, Eric the Red went to CANADIAN territory, NOT U.S. Territory to establish a colony. 

well if we want to be technical about it, asians descended from nomadic anglo-saxons, and whites descended from nomadic indigenous Africans.  Thus we are all brothers and sisters :)

I believe Donald is referring to Kenniwick man, a 9000 year old skelton that appeared to have caucasian features.  Although it opened up a lot of speculation, the find is by no means conclusive and was never studied properly due to religious problms with the Native Americans insisting they were the remains of their ancestors.  It is a case of religion hindering science, but not an arguement for caucasians being in America before Native Americans...just a tantalizing possiblilty that they were not the ONLY ones here in prehistoric times.

if the kenniwick man is 9000 years old and the arlington springs woman is 30,000 years old, that doesn't support donald's argument.

No. I wasn't supporting it, just clarifying a bit.  And Arlington Springs Woman is 13,000 years old, not 30,000. 

Do you realize that "white" is not a country?

Umm...ask a question that makes sense and I will answer it.  I am not even sure what that question is getting at since nowhere have I implied that I believe "white" is a country. 

"If the whites... had all white schools and all white beauty pagents and filled positions they were not qualified for to meet quotas how would the blacks respond..."

IDIOT!!!  That was the norm until Blacks started recognizing themselves and finding their own ways to get their fair share in this world!! 

you some of what you say i agree with. Blacks are about equality, YET they have seperation of everything.

If there were to be a white college fund, a white miss universe, a white miss america or any of that other stuff. It would not be allowed. WHY since we are supposed to all be equal is it allowed now?

I know that.  But whites were MAJORITY.  My point is, that when they are NO LONGER MAJORITY, will it then be acceptable for them to create programs that will only benefit them? 

Jobs were filled by whites to meet quotas?  When did that take place again?  And will it ever take place when they are no longer the majority?

Why don't you learn some black history before you go ranting about a white beauty pagent.  Do you not realize that blacks were not allowed to be in pagents not to mention eating in restaurants or using a public toilet.  I am so sick of people like you belly aching about blacks finally getting somewhere.  You probably did not like civil rights in the 60's.

AGAIN...read and understand.....it was wrong what happened.  What I am asking is, if once the "whites" become the minority, will it be acceptable to implement the same programs etc. as the "blacks" had/have? 

Again...I am not white.  I don't think this country was stolen from anyone.  People voted....although some were  uninformed and in some cases uneducated with no understanding of WHY they were voting. A choice was made.  What I am sick of hearing is that now that a black president has been elected, the "blacks" now get to dish out payback.  And I live in an area where these things are happening and it is NOT being reported.  Elementary school children chanting on buses "Obama! Obama!"  "Payback!  Payback!".  And blacks can't teach their young children to hate and resent?  Gve me a break......

No parent, black or white or green have the right to teach their children to hate other races.

The other side thinks the press is conservative. It certainly played McCain's hate ads for free over and over again. But with strong views, each side notes the bias of the press as being against them and pro the other side.

whites had no reason to creat a naawp. so your point is pointless. the black organizations we have today were all created because there was a need. when have white people in this country ever need organizations to protect themselves from other races. the whole concept is a joke.

m1148 - You are missing the point, big time. "When the whites become the minority will it be acceptable to implement the same programs etc as the 'blacks' had/have......"

Whatever programs you are referring to, were implemented, NOT because blacks were in the minority, but because they have a history of being oppressed......badly oppressed. Sorry, but whites do not have the same history. In fact, they were the oppressors.

I'm black, and if blacks in your area are yelling "payback", that is very wrong. That is not President-Elect Obama's agenda. In fact, we respect his shadow, because he is big enough to reach out to people like John McCain and Hilary Clinton, who did nothing but trash him during the campaign. So don't judge him, nor the rest of us, by a few misguided souls.

You people want to talk about race? Then here is some real harsh truth for you. NOT ALL, SO CALLED "WHITE" PEOPLE ARE OF THE SAME RACE. There are Irish, German, Polish, Russian, English, French, and many more. But all black people think that they are the same race. They are Not ! The Darfurians are different from the other tribe that they are killing and being killed by. The DNA is different.  And there are some races that are so primative that they are protected from modern outside influances to allow for the natural progression of this people to take place. (in south america). Due to the inter breeding of the different people there are less antibiotics that will work against more and more infections and bacteria that are gaining imunity from the more frequent uses of the same antibiotics. And here are some real hard to face facts. If the quality of the education don't improve in this country, we won't have the scientists and Doctors when we need them most, to deal with the most lethal of viruses and diseases. You all need to put this predjudice behind you and ignore the differences and begin to work together to solve these serious problems.  can you understand this?

Donald, want to talk about race?  It doesn't actually exist.  Race is a myth.  There is no biological definition of race.  It is merely a cultural concept.  There is only one race-human- and our exterior colors are recent adaptions of evolution.  White skin is good for cold climates, so we can synthesize vitamin D more efficiently while covered in clothing.  Dark skin is better for sunny, hot climates, so we don't get skin cancer.  Neanderthals were cold adapted, and probably light skinned.  So all these people are expending all this energy on an imaginary concept.  It's like arguing over religion! *wink*

Then DNA is a myth too? (don't wink at me ). some people will kill you over religion.and think that they will get 72 virgins for suicide.

Again Donald, you are ignorant. When the human genome was extracted from DNA it showed that we are ALL homo sapiens and there are no seperate "breeds" or "races". We are all of the Genus Homo and there are no other species other than Sapien still existing on Earth. Some experts say that at one time there were 23 different species of Homo, but they have all become extinct but for Sapiens.

So really, all this "racism" garbage really is total garbage. There is no difference in all of us except for genetic trends.  

m11whatever:  you really think there ARE no all white male groups in the U.S.?  Where have YOU been hiding?  The masonic groups are EXACTLY that, as are numerous GOLFING and COUNTRY clubs, not to mention smoking rooms and on and on.  Boards are only just now allowing SOME women on them and that's if the women behave as men,

Last I looked there wasn't a SINGLE wall street executive who was BLACK, and WHITES brought it all down! 

You're so angry that Blacks actually got together and realized that coalitions would help put more kids in colllege?  Are you saying the NAACP is RACIST because they want their kids to get an education?  WOW.  and YES there are a TON of groups who will put ONLY white MALES in school, I recall an article about a female student at an "all-male" cadet college that took federal funding winning her case against the school for discrimination. 

GEEZ, you've GOT to be kidding me... 

DNA dear Donald, has proven that humans are SO related (yes in that sense we are ALL descended from Adam and Eve and there's been centuries of inbreeding with all our distant brothers and sisters who went forth and covered the land) that one can NOT distinguish one race from another based on the DNA. DNA does NOT distinguish skin color, or hair color, or eye color, it distinguishes that we each (if all goes right) have 2 legs, 2 arms, a liver, a heart, lungs, etc.  as opposed to four legs, a tail, and a body covered with fur, or even fins and a flipper or two.  It also distinguishes that we don't have leaves and an outer bark covering. 

The DNA is different

Then DNA is a myth too? 

Geez, Donald, where are you getting your info from?  Geneticists have long since said race was a social construct and nothing more. 

We share 95% of our DNA with chimps, and 97% of our DNA with other humans.  That leaves only 3% of our massive genome to distinguish identity. 

 We all have the same number of melanocytes, different skin color has to do with the rate that melanin is transferred to the skin.  Finding the one gene out of thousands, that is responsible for that mechanism is negligible when it comes to science.

Echoe.....pull your head out of your a**....THERE ARE ALL BLACK MASONIC GROUPS.  There is one here where I live.  So blacks will hold on to being repressed forever, I suppose.  Well, obviously and according to many blacks, the white man's turn is coming and then they can do all the same things. 

m1148

if it is that bad, really really really that bad.  Maybe you should move. There are plenty of places in america you can go with out hiding in fear of the black man. 

Oh...I am not afraid.  Never said I was.  Just pointing out that the Obama victory sparked violence on the side, too.  Seriously, the media only reporting one side is getting old.  I love where I live.  And as far as race is concerned, as you long as you aren't an ingnorant jack-ass who acts like a 10 year old rather than a responsible voting adult, I have no problem no matter your color.

m1148,

could you give me a source of the sparked violence?  I'd love to read up on it. 

I just said it WAS NOT reported, proving the media is slanted.  It was at my childrens' school and no, there is nothing you can read.  You must be one of those, "if I can't see it, it doesn't exist" people. 

Oh, and the "source" of the sparked violence is the parents of the children feeding their children garbage and hatred.  Just like other people in these posts have pointed out, parents teach the kids their behavior.

I don't believe in the conspiracy of media slants.  The media is owned by rich conglomerates that cater only to their ratings and advertisers.   The more people tune in, the more they play a particular news reel.  If their was blatant racism out there, black or white, they would report it because racism of any kind is ratings gold. 

As far You must be one of those, "if I can't see it, it doesn't exist" people. 

You are right about that one.  I am a skeptic, of everything.  If there isn't verifiable evidence I don't believe it can be quoted as fact. 

I say, if it's really so blatant in your community, why don't you own camera and put it on youtube? I'll believe you when I see it, and who knows, you might be one of those guys that make it on 'caught on camera'.

Wow...you actually admitted to your idiocy.  Nice.  I respect you for that.  Naive , too.  To think that every little racial incident in every little town would be reportred, let alone for the country to see, is ridiculous.  And to believe that the media did not favor Obama during the whole campaign is stupidity at it's finest.  The media is liberal.  It's obvious.  Pick up a brain at the five and dime.

Why do people sling personal attacks at one another? I believe you both have valid points, but the exchange got lost in the insults.

tough2name - people result to personal attacks when they don't have a factual basis to support their position.  I'm not in high school anymore, its pointless for me to call names to a computer screen.

But I'm not one to rain on someone's parade, if it makes m1148 day to call me an idiot, i'm happy to oblige ;P

Who knows, this may be all the joy he/she's got in the world. I'd be cruel to take that away. :D

M11, you are a silly person. The black college fund was started to help black students in poor area's who couldn't afford college. Now ask yourself how many scholarships are given to white kids every year? And you're complaining about one? And then you have the audicity to say that blacks are as racist as whites, and that whites are the minority? If you truely believe that, you are a sad sad idiot. I hate to sound redundant, but do some research before you talk. You won't sound so dumb

The black man is gonna get us?

Is that your theory?

Racist fool. Yeah... black man's goan git us. Sure. You racists have been saying that since I was in high school in the 1980s. Give it up. It's got as much likelihood of happening as the South Rising Again.

I understand why blacks would be racists against whites; especially the older ones living in the South.

But I don't understand why whites are racists against blacks...there's really no logic to their position..

It's ignorant fear. Fear and mistrust based on a difference. It really doesn't matter the color of skin. It can be ANYTHING - a group of people who all decide to wear the same hairdo would create fear in some. Unfortunately, it's that simple. And with whites fearing blacks, it's the fear of retribution as well. (Will they take action against us because of what my ancestors did to their ancestors?)

Any action against any man for no reason is a misguided action.

Respect, we need to follow Obama's lead.

wrong.  all RACISTS are guilty of being racist.

Now that is something I can agree 100% with.

I agree with you too!

I also had the idea that the next time the Red States want to withdraw from the Union, they should be allowed to. They cost more to maintain than they're worth.

Actually, everyone, including Indians migrated here. They just beat the white guys by a few thousand years.

It was Obama who broke a written agreement to only use public funding for the general election. it was not his color but the lies and deciete. he said that he is being honest while he was being dishonest. and who do you see standing next to him? Bill Clinton who was impeached for purjury to a Grand jury and obstruction of justice and Hillary clinton, Joe Biden, Colin Powell and many others who Publicly stated the fact that, "Barack Obama is not qualified to be president". There were so many first time voters who did vote for him because he is black and this is racism. if not, why didn't they ever vote before when they are mostly in their 30s?

Hey Donald

I get what you're saying this time but see what you should look at is why has there never been a president of non-white descent?  Whites did the same damn thing over many many years. I remember when Jesse Jackson ran for the presidency back in the eighties. Whites went crazy in my neighborhood saying they need to get their guns ready. What kind of crap is that? Whites voted white. Big deal it happens and will continue to happen on both sides.  Is it stupid? Very much so but it is expected. Blacks followed an example. Thank the white man for setting that example.

Jessie Jackson is not a good example.(black panther milita) Lies are lies and no one can change it. "white" is a generalized term and there are no ligitimate reasons to use it. There have been minority presidents before. Irish was a minority.  Corruption is corruption sooner or later even the blacks will hate it too. no matter what the skin color of the criminal.

Donald, let me also clarify to what happened with the election funds. First, Obama did not agree to use public funding, he said he would be willing to sit down and disguss it with his adversary. That meeting never took place. Then McCain took public funding, but in a "reach around" he took out a loan on the public funding, using it as collateral. Therefor, he doubled his money. He also had free access to all the RNC's money, because of the way he wrote the bill. The DNC didn't remotely have the funds that the RNC had, because BIG Business traditionally gives great sums of money to the RNC. Obama decided to not take public funding, because he was put at a disadvantage by what McCain had done. Obama took a great risk doing this, what if no one had donated to him? But millions and millions of people did, 15$ or 25$ at a time. Thus, Obama had huge sums in his coffers, and McCain, who thought he was being clever, actually short-changed himself by trying to be tricky.

I'll give you all that you say about Obama (though I don't agree with some of it), then still tell me exactly what he's accomplished that gives you such confidence in him?  Also, what is it that he's going to do that you are for?  All the superficial things about Obama that you mentioned will not accomplish anything.  He can be all those things, and if his policies are wrong, the country will suffer for it.  That's why I opposed him and will continue to do so.  He's wrong in the direction that he wants to take this country.  Race never enters into it.

Gary, it is a sad thing.  You are right if any thing happens to Obama, the country will go down in flames and will never be the same.  With all of America's other issues, I don't think this country will survive something like that.  No matter what,  the racist will never get what they want because a repub will not be in the white house even if the worse happens.  Everybody had better pray for the safety of themselves and their children that all will remain calm.

We're just going through growing pains.

Every time blacks have integrated into sports, schools, the military, etc... there was always racists there trying to hold them back.

But they intergrated and the country became a better place.

To the credit of the FBI and Secret Service: they seem to be ahead of the game. 

I hope the start charging people even for the most minor aggressions.  Racists are cowards.  They only act when in crowds and when they think that they can get away with it.

Don't be fooled by the liberal media. again. The gun sales are up because of the need for defense of home and family. There are too many Illegal aliens here and the democrats have a history of criminal negligence. would you just sit back while your family is threatened? Watch TV and see who is doing the most crimes of violense. It is politically incorrect to say it even on TV.

Donald, you're an idiot.  it is PROVEN that most crimes in the U.S. are committed by whites.  AND that the most HEINOUS and VIOLENT crimes are committed by whites.  an overwhelming majority of pedophiles and serial killers are WHITE.  those families who kill their kids are OVERWHELMINGLY WHITE.   Most robberies and rapes are committed by WHITES and most murders are committed by WHITES. (I worked in domestic violence court.  Not ONE black woman or family ever walked through the doors in 2 years, and we had a LOT of cases.) 

and that leads us to another discrimination perpetrated in the U.S.  whie most white male first time offenders are let off, most BLACK first time offenders suffer VERY harsh prison time and fines for the same crime.  

So if you're worried about someone breaking into your house.. yeah, the black guy was put in prison, it's the WHITE guy who was let off that you have to worry about. 

Also to add:

Statistically, most crimes are done to people by someone they know. 

What is it like 75-85% or something like that?  So while these people are stocking up on guns, they are just increasing their chances of of being attacked or attacking someone of their own neighborhood!

The majority of violent crimes are done by family members to other family members.

Which is exactly why I am so afraid of all of these ppl getting guns.......

There extreme race hate will most likely be turned inwardly......

A sad state of affairs.